tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post3981653375255888187..comments2024-03-17T09:14:13.950+00:00Comments on John Wells’s phonetic blog: Scottish affairs at BAAPJohn Wellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-72905665961859286612012-04-06T05:51:37.187+01:002012-04-06T05:51:37.187+01:00How sad. I love an old-fashioned Scottish accent....How sad. I love an old-fashioned Scottish accent. BBC rugby commentator <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_McLaren" rel="nofollow">Bill McLaren</a> was the possessor of one of my favorite voices in any accent of English -- you can hear him <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ003OdNcSE&feature=relmfu" rel="nofollow">here</a> if you're interested. Interestingly, it appears that he toned down his rhoticity for his commentary, by comparison with the informal style he displays in the interviews of this documentary.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-29944889650561973052012-04-05T16:53:33.075+01:002012-04-05T16:53:33.075+01:00See here: "Traditional Scottish (x) (hw) and ...See <a href="http://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/STELLA/Glasgow%20accent/Report.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>: "Traditional Scottish (x) (hw) and postvocalic (r) are undergoing complex changes, probably loss..."John Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-77270814469139557502012-04-05T14:37:45.291+01:002012-04-05T14:37:45.291+01:00I've just realised that the point about Glasgo...I've just realised that the point about Glasgow:<br /><br /><i>"Younger working-class speakers on the Scottish side, more in the west than in the east, are starting to lose their rhoticity. This confirms what has been reported elsewhere for Glasgow English."</i><br /><br />rather refutes my guess that it's just a case of small places in Scotland near to a large English town or city.<br /><br />I wonder how I would, <i>a priori</i>, have ranked the following in terms of probability:<br /><br />- leopards changing their spots<br />- Glaswegians losing their rhoticity<br />- certain TV presenters changing their idiotic ways<br /><br />See <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5WFl4E8VCI" rel="nofollow">video</a>...Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10627322349797202893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-18339087505710440852012-04-05T12:32:46.014+01:002012-04-05T12:32:46.014+01:00The Scottish places pinpointed on the map are both...The Scottish places pinpointed on the map are both places where the nearest major town/city is in England and there's quite a way to travel to anywhere of appreciable size on the Scottish side. I wonder what they would find for speakers just north of Cheviots, where this is not the case.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10627322349797202893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-59188600415621945632012-04-05T11:00:36.599+01:002012-04-05T11:00:36.599+01:00All interesting, but the double articulation of th...All interesting, but the double articulation of the approximant (and its effect) get the prize.Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-52519871481653727162012-04-05T09:34:00.555+01:002012-04-05T09:34:00.555+01:00Certainly Americans are NURSE-merged but not (with...Certainly Americans are NURSE-merged but not (with historical exceptions) derhotacized, so that was not the original path.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.com