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I'm amazed at the OED's /rᵻˈvəːb/ ...Alan<br /><br />I'm amazed at the OED's /rᵻˈvəːb/ U.S. /rəˈvərb/. I've never heard it, and if ever a student of mine had said it I would have called it a mistake.<br /><br />You may well be right about vowel length. I do say <i>rɪˈkɔ:l</i> for the noun <i>recall</i>. However, this is limited to the noun that means 'recollection'. The noun that means 'summoning back' is (for me) <b>ˈri: ̩kɔ:l</b>.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-14109217118839812792012-10-01T12:05:13.568+01:002012-10-01T12:05:13.568+01:00Ellen
Rehabilitation, though, has a different st...Ellen <br /><br /><i>Rehabilitation, though, has a different stress pattern than resuscitation so it's not fully parallel.</i><br /><br />The full words may not be parallel but there is a uniform stress pattern for many <i>re</i>+SYLLABLE words when the SYLLABLE is a fragment or a noun conversion of a monosyllabic verb.<br /><br />I can think of <i>re-</i> words with stress on the second syllable as Joe Stynes suggested, but none are nouns — let alone nouns with the structure described above.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-78153294032703890032012-09-27T20:57:43.485+01:002012-09-27T20:57:43.485+01:00Reverberation has a parallel stress pattern to res...<i>Reverberation</i> has a parallel stress pattern to <i>resuscitation</i>. Yet for <i>reverb</i> as a noun, the OED offers both alternatives, while for <i>resus</i> it only offers first-syllable stress. (Might the differing length of vowels in the second syllable be relevant?)Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10627322349797202893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-42539005100473152272012-09-27T20:25:13.646+01:002012-09-27T20:25:13.646+01:00Rehabilitation, though, has a different stress pat...Rehabilitation, though, has a different stress pattern than resuscitation so it's not fully parallel. (I'm U.S., but since they different in number of syllables, I'll assume that holds true in the U.K. as well.)Ellen Kozisekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16856539181411664278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-36528259780819459002012-09-27T08:31:53.179+01:002012-09-27T08:31:53.179+01:00@Alan: it's /hʌm/ in the OED because it hasn&#...@Alan: it's /hʌm/ in the OED because it hasn't got round to that section of the dictionary. It's obviously worked on the r entries, because we've got, for 'run', Brit. /rʌn/ , U.S. /rən/ whereas for 'bun' we've only got /bʌn/. I'm sure vp is right in that they just 'translating' it into a US-style IPA, and leaving out length marks, as in the entry for the noun 'reject': Brit. /ˈriːdʒɛkt/ , U.S. /ˈriˌdʒɛk(t)/.Peter Tanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02871546762671752664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-71081971119424924682012-09-27T08:22:00.028+01:002012-09-27T08:22:00.028+01:00"In muscle the C is silent between an S and a..."In muscle the C is silent between an S and a vocalic L. This is unusual but comparable to the T in wrestle or apostle (and the C in muscle would also be a voiceless plosive)."<br /><br />Then, I suppose the c in muscle was historically pronounced, the same way as the t's in wrestle, apostle or castle, and was eventually lost to facilitate pronunciation - I doubt this theory, however. <i>Rascal</i>, though spelt differently, has the same /skəl/ sound (what muscle should have had) in the end but it failed to evolve into <i>RUSSEL</i>.<br /><br />"In resuscitation, on the other hand, the C is soft because it's followed by an I."<br /><br />That's the obvious bit, but no one thinks resuscitation is strange, anyway. It's the abbreviation 'resusc' that breaks all the rules; but I suppose it's the same way with a lot of other modern shortenings. Just think of veg /vɛdʒ/ for vegetarian.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11343068774549667364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-62374846432515032352012-09-27T00:28:51.346+01:002012-09-27T00:28:51.346+01:00And, with a different prefix, consider ˈpri: ̩fæb,...And, with a different prefix, consider <b>ˈpri: ̩fæb</b>, <b>ˈpri: ̩mɛd</b>.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-45348286594298715242012-09-27T00:21:44.090+01:002012-09-27T00:21:44.090+01:00Joe
Consider ˈri: ̩hæb also abbreviated from a no...Joe<br /><br />Consider <b>ˈri: ̩hæb</b> also abbreviated from a noun. And consider the nouns from transitive verbs <b>ˈri: ̩rɑɪt</b>, <b>ˈri: ̩rʌn</b>, <b>ˈri: ̩̩teɪk</b>, <b>ˈri: ̩meɪk</b>, <b>ˈri: ̩kɔ:l</b> <b>ˈri: ̩hæʃ</b> etc.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-28492976659375694802012-09-26T18:27:59.869+01:002012-09-26T18:27:59.869+01:00If I were coining a two-syllable clipping of "...If I were coining a two-syllable clipping of "resuscitation" it would have second-syllable stress. Does the first-syllable stress suggest it originated in the compound "resus room"?mollymoolyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12318298535149179044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-19704473616586253122012-09-26T18:06:03.945+01:002012-09-26T18:06:03.945+01:00(apologies for transcription errors above - I'...(apologies for transcription errors above - I've spotted laɪbrər<b>iː</b>z" and ð<b>e</b> already)Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10627322349797202893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-11099317713793488182012-09-26T17:52:27.107+01:002012-09-26T17:52:27.107+01:00Thanks.
I see that hum versus the interjection po...Thanks.<br /><br />I see that <i>hum</i> versus the interjection possibly spelt <i>h'm</i> is suggested <a href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wordscape/wordlist/" rel="nofollow">here</a> as another STRUT-schwa minimal pair (for RP, at least), so I looked to see what the OED did with it.<br /><br />For the usual noun/verb, it offers /hʌm/ and no U.S. variant. Meanwhile, for the interjection, we have:<br /><br />---<br />hum, <i>int.</i><br /><br />Pronunciation: /həm/<br /><br />An inarticulate exclamation uttered with the lips closed, either in a pause of hesitation or embarrassment, or as expressing slight dissatisfaction, dissent, etc.<br />---<br /><br />Their definition ("lips closed") does rather suggest a transcription /hm/ rather than /həm/, doesn't it?<br /><br />ɪnsɪdentli, ɪn keɪs ɪts juːsfʊl, dʒʌs tə let juː nəʊ ðət ɔːl juː keɪ rezɪdənts kən get friː ɒnlaɪn ækses tə ði əʊ iː diː. guːgl fə "ɒksfədʃə refrəns ɒnlaɪn" ən "dʒɔɪn ɒksfədʃə laɪbrəriːz" (ɪn ɔːθɒgrəfi, ɒbvjəsli). aɪm raɪtɪŋ ðɪs ɪn aɪ piː eɪ əz aɪ dəʊnt wɒnt tu ædvətaɪz ɪt <b>tuː</b> waɪdli - ðe mʌni kliəli hæz tə kʌm frəm sʌmweə, neɪmli maɪ kaʊnsɪl tæks!Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10627322349797202893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-80745802356735995462012-09-26T16:32:06.148+01:002012-09-26T16:32:06.148+01:00The difference is that in resus ˈriˌsəs the second...The difference is that in <i>resus</i> <b>ˈriˌsəs</b> the second vowel is strong and carries secondary stress, while in <i>rhesus</i> <b>ˈrisəs</b> the second vowel is weak (and can't carry stress).<br /><br />The use of schwa with stress in the screenshot above is just the OED's way of representing the US realisation of the STRUT vowel. I think it's a bit confusing really.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13722482936100504510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-32879917080262348942012-09-26T16:29:52.275+01:002012-09-26T16:29:52.275+01:00My guess (and it is only a guess) is that the OED ...My guess (and it is only a guess) is that the OED uses stressed schwa as its US transcription of the STRUT vowel. In this case, I wouldn't be surprised if the OED started with the UK pronunciation and simply "translated" it into US English.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-30916614894634258982012-09-26T16:25:34.438+01:002012-09-26T16:25:34.438+01:00Never heard of it, either in the first 20-odd year...Never heard of it, either in the first 20-odd years of my life that I spent in England, or the last 15 years in the US.<br /><br />This suggests that it could be a recent coinage that is restricted to Britain. Or that I don't watch enough medical TV dramas.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-30136598579475588442012-09-26T15:44:42.105+01:002012-09-26T15:44:42.105+01:00I've only encountered "resus". The R...I've only encountered "resus". The Resuscitation Council's website is <a href="http://www.resus.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">resus.org.uk</a>, and I think this reflects the usual spelling of the abbreviation.<br /><br />Incidentally (anyone), I've a couple of queries regarding the OED's US pronunciation, /ˈriˌsəs/: how common is a schwa with stress (even if secondary), and would many AmE speakers consistently distinguish <i>resus</i> from <i>Rhesus</i> (OED: "U.S. /ˈrisəs/")?<br /><br />Finally, well done to John for a much better definition than in the OED. Contrast with their "emergency treatment designed to restore circulatory and respiratory function after cardiac arrest, major trauma, etc". CPR does <i>not</i> itself restart the heart, although it does increase the success rate of subsequent defibrillation.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10627322349797202893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-63488277135330679962012-09-26T15:03:15.423+01:002012-09-26T15:03:15.423+01:00I have not heard this word in America, either on T...I have not heard this word in America, either on TV or elsewhere; the OED may well be right.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-18738163165044128542012-09-26T14:34:06.154+01:002012-09-26T14:34:06.154+01:00It's a similar result but arising from two dif...It's a similar result but arising from two different phenomena.<br /><br />In <i>muscle</i> the C is silent between an S and a vocalic L. This is unusual but comparable to the T in <i>wrestle</i> or <i>apostle</i> (and the C in <i>muscle</i> would also be a voiceless plosive).<br /><br />In <i>resuscitation</i>, on the other hand, the C is soft because it's followed by an I. This gives it the same sound as the preceding S, thereby forming a double consonant, which is pronounced as a single S. This is a completely regular.<br /><br />The irregularity is that when the end of the word, starting with that crucial I, is dropped, the C keeps its "soft" sound. So it's not that the C is irregularly silent, it's more that it's irregularly soft.<br /><br />piː mæk ənɛnəPetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13722482936100504510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-40976685532394442462012-09-26T13:14:02.574+01:002012-09-26T13:14:02.574+01:00How about another (medical, if one wills!) term mu...How about another (medical, if one wills!) term <i>muscle</i>? It's not in the same class as <i>resusc</i> (<i>-sc</i> in the end) and definitely much more common, but has the <i>sc</i> pronounced /s/, despite the <i>-le</i> that follows.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11343068774549667364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-72866042866729856812012-09-26T10:54:38.234+01:002012-09-26T10:54:38.234+01:00If resus(c) is an acceptable abbreviation of resus...If <i>resus(c)</i> is an acceptable abbreviation of <i>resuscitation</i>, the surely <i>pleb</i> is an acceptable abbreviation of <i>plebeian</i>.<br /><br />Actually, I've always supposed that <i>pleb</i> was a facetiously <b>knowing</b> back-formation from <i>plebs</i>.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-87762301488195357682012-09-26T09:05:53.840+01:002012-09-26T09:05:53.840+01:00Well, not so long ago, writing under a crazy pseud...Well, not so long ago, writing under a crazy pseudonym, I told you to take things easily too, at least as regards my insane comments.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01762196203762970377noreply@blogger.com