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My name is Mrs Sharon Sim. I live...Hello Everybody,<br />My name is Mrs Sharon Sim. I live in Singapore and i am a happy woman today? and i told my self that any lender that rescue my family from our poor situation, i will refer any person that is looking for loan to him, he gave me happiness to me and my family, i was in need of a loan of $250,000.00 to start my life all over as i am a single mother with 3 kids I met this honest and GOD fearing man loan lender that help me with a loan of $250,000.00 SG. Dollar, he is a GOD fearing man, if you are in need of loan and you will pay back the loan please contact him tell him that is Mrs Sharon, that refer you to him. contact Dr Purva Pius,via email:(urgentloan22@gmail.com) Thank you.Dr Purva Piushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05883980841903455890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-42904859424196566562010-05-12T07:26:13.259+01:002010-05-12T07:26:13.259+01:00I read the name in Greek before I saw it in Roman ...I read the name in Greek before I saw it in Roman spelling.I can't remember what this instinctive knowledge is based on.superking beddinghttp://www.beddinghut.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-61382146701500557212010-04-21T18:01:44.444+01:002010-04-21T18:01:44.444+01:00I suspect it's only the politeness to which JW...I suspect it's only the politeness to which JW attributed his demurral to show surprise at əˈɡæθə (http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/03/agatha-and-helena.html) which makes him demur to call anything as out of line as ˈtəʊnətɒpi plain wrong. Likewise ˈhəʊmətɒpi, however RP its attestor.<br /><br />David,<br />I also remember a Classics teacher teaching us tmesis, but that's such a technical term, and ˈmiːsɪs would be absurd and probably incomprehensible.<br /><br />Sili,<br />The spelling rooves, seems to be obsolete or at least obsolescent, but ruːvz is still around. I have observed that the Prince of Wales uses it, for example, and LPD acknowledges it as an RP alternative for the spelling 'roofs' (as it does rʊfs, which I find surprising). I wonder if there are any other examples of this curious phenomenon.<br /><br />Damn *all* lovers of /bɛiʒɪŋ/.mallambhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086916400059545681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-43593656155860051312010-04-18T13:37:00.735+01:002010-04-18T13:37:00.735+01:00Hello. Have you ever thought about making short mo...Hello. Have you ever thought about making short movies how to pronounce each sound - vowel or constant? It would be so helpful.Annienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-52941007885128448352010-04-18T13:23:58.919+01:002010-04-18T13:23:58.919+01:00Perfect website:) Keep doing your work - it really...Perfect website:) Keep doing your work - it really helps.<br />Especially, for foreigners.<br />Bye:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-60164278303685786292010-04-16T14:26:27.405+01:002010-04-16T14:26:27.405+01:00this is a very cool information... the pangea is r...this is a very cool information... the pangea is really a cool story... I encountered the word Iapeutus in <a href="http://www.myalchemilla.com/" rel="nofollow">natural skin care</a> products... I don't know why???Sefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06729744766199135858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-61230196461719666032010-04-15T14:37:37.842+01:002010-04-15T14:37:37.842+01:00ACK! I *am* just wrong.
"I'm almost cert...ACK! I *am* just wrong.<br /><br />"I'm almost certain it was /ɹuːðz/ where I woulda expected /ɹuːθz/ - am I just wrong."<br /><br />That should of course be /ɹuːvz/ vs. /ɹuːfs/ for the plural of "roof".Jens Knudsen (Sili)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14078875730565068352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-48416493765868118942010-04-15T12:07:51.486+01:002010-04-15T12:07:51.486+01:00Anonymous
Not knowing the word, I would pronounce...Anonymous<br /><br />Not knowing the word, I would pronounce it <i>hə'mɒtəpi</i> until told otherwise.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-61092514243539379682010-04-15T00:17:46.525+01:002010-04-15T00:17:46.525+01:00I met an RP-speaking professor consistently saying...I met an RP-speaking professor consistently saying ˈhəʊmətɒpi (homotopy, a technical term in mathematics). Usually, however, it's həʊˈmɒtəpi or həˈmɒtəpi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-53808127002590560532010-04-15T00:03:13.458+01:002010-04-15T00:03:13.458+01:00Like Graham and Michael, I instinctively knew it w...Like Graham and Michael, I instinctively knew it was <i>jˈæpɪtəs</i>.<br /><br />I can't remember what this instinctive knowledge is based on. Quite possibly, I read the name in Greek before I saw it in Roman spelling. <br /><br />I also pronounce a /t/ in <i>tmesis</i>, and I <i><b>do</b></i> remember why. It was a Classics teacher who taught me the word, and that's how he pronounced it.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-40881581292150161342010-04-14T23:09:54.803+01:002010-04-14T23:09:54.803+01:00Before I heard the pronunciation of Iapetus, I tho...Before I heard the pronunciation of Iapetus, I thought it was /ˈdʒæpɪtəs/, by analogy from Oedipus' mother invariably being called Jocasta (and not Iocasta) in English.<br /><br />As for the nine modern Greek ways of writing /i/, <a href="http://hellenisteukontos.blogspot.com/2010/03/soviet-orthography-of-greek.html" rel="nofollow">I am reminded of this post on spelling reform</a>.James Dowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11058389162481491681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-47035642534140376552010-04-14T16:25:47.967+01:002010-04-14T16:25:47.967+01:00/aɪ'æpɪtəs/certainly seems to be standard for .../aɪ'æpɪtəs/certainly seems to be standard for the Saturnian moon. I was using /'jæpɪtəs/, myself, too, until I first heard it, though.<br /><br />On the topic of astronomy I have to say that I'm being driven nut by Pluto enthusiasts pronouncing the moon/second half of the double planet /'ʃaːɹən/ (at least I haven't heard /ʃə'ɹɔn/ - yet).<br /><br />I need to relisten to the Guardian Daily podcast - they used a plural form I don't recall hearing before. I'm almost certain it was /ɹuːðz/ where I woulda expected /ɹuːθz/ - am I just wrong.<br /><br />Speaking of the Grauniad - they've fallen in love with /bɛiʒɪŋ/ too. Damn them.Jens Knudsen (Sili)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14078875730565068352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-73567833530120056652010-04-14T16:19:30.734+01:002010-04-14T16:19:30.734+01:00As far as we can tell, Ancient Greek η differed in...As far as we can tell, Ancient Greek η differed in quality as well as length from ε. The former was mid-open, the latter mid-close, which is tricky to remember when you've got firmly in mind that ε is IPA for the mid-open vowel! The same is true of ω and ο respectively.<br /><br />The regular representations of the long mid-close vowels were ει and ου, frequently but not always derived from pre-Classical diphthongs. These later moved up to /i:/ and /u:/ respectively, the former merging with ι and the latter either pushing υ to /y/ or being pulled by it. Eventually /y/ was unrounded and vowel length was lost among other changes, leaving six spellings in Modern Greek for /i/: ι ει οι η υ υι.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-9797954683904234652010-04-14T14:49:06.831+01:002010-04-14T14:49:06.831+01:00I would only ever say jæˈpɛtəs or jəˈpɛtəs for thi...I would only ever say jæˈpɛtəs or jəˈpɛtəs for this. Initial aiə would never occur to me.Michael Eversonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16882679137179765872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-5003567326061625622010-04-14T13:34:50.895+01:002010-04-14T13:34:50.895+01:00I naturally want to pronounce Iapetus jˈæpɪtəs. I ...I naturally want to pronounce Iapetus jˈæpɪtəs. I think I have a tendency to over-classicise my pronunciation, though. For example, I pronounce the leading t in tmesis even though there is supposedly no legal initial 'tm' cluster in English. But then again, the dictionary (OED Shorter) agrees with me on that one.Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10748485660099592412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-5778150633444336142010-04-14T11:47:17.134+01:002010-04-14T11:47:17.134+01:00This rule is very helpful indeed, but, as Fowler p...This rule is very helpful indeed, but, as Fowler pointed out somewhere, it's much less simple if the word in question isn't an unchanged loan from Latin or Greek but has entered English through another language, has undergone changes in English or both. Greek had -to'pia and -lo'gia, and French -lo'gi(e), so the English stress of bi'ology has to be traced back to bi'ologos. Nevertheless, there's an established stess pattern for English words in -topy, and ˈtəʊnətɒpi certainly is unexpected.Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.com