tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post7428847950090316387..comments2024-03-17T09:14:13.950+00:00Comments on John Wells’s phonetic blog: a prophetic patronymic?John Wellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-37634803086609751202020-06-12T09:52:26.629+01:002020-06-12T09:52:26.629+01:00Haloo pak^^
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Pelayanan CS yang ramah dan Proffesional dan pastinya sangat aman juga bisa anda dapatkan di Sentanapoker.yessy haryantohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503331838637071246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-76007684567502822152014-03-07T15:33:21.649+00:002014-03-07T15:33:21.649+00:00There is a Danish footballer by the name of Absalo...There is a Danish footballer by the name of Absalonsen, but he might be Jewish.J.A. Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06987967329943301151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-80911368941430473882013-03-22T17:03:23.779+00:002013-03-22T17:03:23.779+00:00There was a Polish (Jewish) philosopher, Janina Ho...There was a Polish (Jewish) philosopher, Janina Hosiasson-Lindenbaum, of some achievement, Germans executed her in Wilno in 1942.<br /><br />See true profile --- full name.Podpora społeczeństwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339088245843399386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-81331525822515720182013-03-14T10:48:46.835+00:002013-03-14T10:48:46.835+00:00What denomination?What denomination?Steve Doerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18210787261745134371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-27898059703304775582013-03-14T08:58:11.617+00:002013-03-14T08:58:11.617+00:00Growing up and attending church in Glasgow, I and ...Growing up and attending church in Glasgow, I and everyone I know pronounced this name [hoʊˈzeɪə]. It's the only pronunciation I was aware of before reading this post.Iain Bùthchanainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224781836557541710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-73717973741712040802013-03-12T16:14:12.665+00:002013-03-12T16:14:12.665+00:00I grew up a few miles from Hoseasons in the 50s/60...I grew up a few miles from Hoseasons in the 50s/60s and have only ever heard the 'seasonal' pronunciation. richardelguruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00839486187041394826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-42002063743308730372013-03-12T15:35:41.586+00:002013-03-12T15:35:41.586+00:00A Google search reveals there are some people with...A Google search reveals there are some people with the surname Amoson (one s). I also wonder if the surname Mosson is derived from Amos.<br /><br />Of course, the most common patronymic from Amos is simply Amos, the surname of one of my great grandmothers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296034779667624202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-8912017028007977292013-03-12T09:06:11.360+00:002013-03-12T09:06:11.360+00:00I've been in church in Malaysia, Singapore, th...I've been in church in Malaysia, Singapore, the UK and Australia, and I've only ever heard /həʊˈziːə/. However, although I say /dʒʊˈdiːə/ for Judea, it is not uncommon for people to say /dʒʊˈdeɪə/. The German influence mentioned by Paul is plausible. But there's also the tendency to give more 'foreign' values to vowels which I think is what is happening to Judea, and also Hosea in American English.Peter Tanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02871546762671752664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-14548907524936093282013-03-11T23:46:50.308+00:002013-03-11T23:46:50.308+00:00A self-pronouncing Bible is also available online ...A self-pronouncing Bible is also available online <a href="http://www.archive.org/stream/oxfordselfpronou00oxfo#page/1120/mode/2up" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Steve Doerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18210787261745134371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-27391815295641191732013-03-11T23:43:23.186+00:002013-03-11T23:43:23.186+00:00I'm sure I learned my pronunciation of [hoʊˈze...I'm sure I learned my pronunciation of [hoʊˈzeɪə] from my father a now-retired Lutheran pastor in his early 80s who grew up in Jersey City, NJ but studied at the Missouri Synod seminary in Springfield, IL. Since our liturgical tradition is historically German-based, I wonder if the German pronunciations of Biblical names had any bearing on this?Paul Roserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05454774277645499742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-89457948662408261132013-03-11T21:29:55.279+00:002013-03-11T21:29:55.279+00:00You can find a lot of Bible names pronounced here:...You can find a lot of Bible names pronounced here: <a href="http://betterdaysarecoming.com/bible/pronunciation.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Bible Words Phonetic Pronunciation</i></a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-31781055208446088092013-03-11T19:43:52.160+00:002013-03-11T19:43:52.160+00:00I grew up saying hoʊˈzeɪə in Atlanta, Georgia, USA...I grew up saying hoʊˈzeɪə in Atlanta, Georgia, USA in the 1940's, so it depends on what you mean by "recent". Charles Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14261531542957899211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-12863226788676625262013-03-11T18:22:51.030+00:002013-03-11T18:22:51.030+00:00How would the Irish pronounce "Hosea"?
...How would the Irish pronounce "Hosea"? <br /><br />I'm aware that there is an Irish pronunciation for "Jesus" using the FACE vowel in the first syllable. I'm wondering if FACE might be used in the second syllable of "Hosea".<br /><br />Ed AveyardEdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04081841460525341333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-9526324526428065562013-03-11T17:26:36.282+00:002013-03-11T17:26:36.282+00:00I'm completely out of my element considering t...I'm completely out of my element considering the knowledge of most contributors to this blog, but wouldn't Al Jolson's name likely correspond with the patronymic for Joel? <br /><br />That was my first thought and on checking that I indeed spelt his name correctly I see that he was born Yoelson. That Y is how a name that we spell with a J would have been pronounced in Judea and it has that bonus E too.Tim Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17757965325551156957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-73158412333419201512013-03-11T17:12:46.015+00:002013-03-11T17:12:46.015+00:00In the case of Isaiah, -ˈeɪə is recorded as 'o...In the case of <em>Isaiah</em>, <strong>-ˈeɪə</strong> is recorded as 'old-fashioned' by Daniel Jones. The original OED (NED), in 1900, included both pronunciations in the derived words:<br /><br /> <strong>Isaian</strong> (əizai·ăn, -<em>ē</em>ⁱ·ăn)<br /><br /> <strong>Isaianic</strong> (əizai-, əiz<em>e</em>ˌæ·nik)Steve Doerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18210787261745134371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-18779788587423306652013-03-11T16:42:06.150+00:002013-03-11T16:42:06.150+00:00Sorry, I was fooled by my bad eyesight. BT lists n...Sorry, I was fooled by my bad eyesight. BT lists neither of the spellings in their London directory,Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-27604044283265522392013-03-11T15:17:04.507+00:002013-03-11T15:17:04.507+00:00In "Isaiah", we have BrE /aɪˈzaɪə/ and A...In "Isaiah", we have BrE /aɪˈzaɪə/ and AmE /aɪˈzeɪə/ (at least: those are the only pronuncations I've heard in each country).vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-5585028683273608072013-03-11T15:05:43.042+00:002013-03-11T15:05:43.042+00:00Do you really mean Amasson [sic] or Amosson? The f...Do you really mean Amasson [sic] or Amosson? The first is irrelevant. Neither are to be found in the online BT London directory <br />http://www.thephonebook.bt.com .John Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-49239912106756986692013-03-11T14:56:14.587+00:002013-03-11T14:56:14.587+00:00/hoʊˈzeɪə/ is the only pronunciation I'm famil.../hoʊˈzeɪə/ is the only pronunciation I'm familiar with. The villainous captain in Robert Louis Stevenson's <i>Kidnapped</i> is named Elias Hoseason, which when I first saw it (and since) I immediately read as /hoʊˈzeɪəsʌn/; I do not recall seeing that surname again until this very posting.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-25584784336460746252013-03-11T13:25:17.398+00:002013-03-11T13:25:17.398+00:00Regarding Hoseasons, I think I've mostly heard...Regarding <em>Hoseasons</em>, I think I've mostly heard it pronounced <strong>ˈhəʊsiːzənz</strong>. And it has never occurred to me until now that it might be connected with <em>Hosea</em>. As for the latter, I think I have a non-RP trisyllabic pronunciation, though I've never been a church-goer, so it's not a name I've heard very often. My Oxford self-pronouncing Bible and my Oxford Bible Reader's Dictionary both give it three syllables (hō-ṡē′-ă), but then they don't actually have any way of representing an <strong>ɪə</strong> diphthong for a word not spelt with an <r>.Steve Doerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18210787261745134371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-32450776807054573892013-03-11T12:51:48.139+00:002013-03-11T12:51:48.139+00:00The London telephone directory lists a few Amasson...The London telephone directory lists a few Amassons and one Joelsson.<br />/pɛtr røːzəl/<br />Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-13161324118407915532013-03-11T09:31:17.748+00:002013-03-11T09:31:17.748+00:00I'm sure there are quite a few Joel(s)sons aro...I'm sure there are quite a few Joel(s)sons around in Britain, some Amossons, a couple of Na(c)humsons maybe, and indeed hardly any Zephaniahsons, if at all. Most of the Joelsons/Joelssons/Johlsons will be Jewish immigrants or their descendants.Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.com