tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post1951312356030699983..comments2024-03-17T09:14:13.950+00:00Comments on John Wells’s phonetic blog: a Jamaican allophoneJohn Wellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-40286520757716001982020-06-23T11:22:22.334+01:002020-06-23T11:22:22.334+01:00Haloo pak^^
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Pelayanan CS yang ramah dan Proffesional dan pastinya sangat aman juga bisa anda dapatkan di Sentanapoker.yessy haryantohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503331838637071246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-39578416929276826602012-08-24T02:14:08.032+01:002012-08-24T02:14:08.032+01:00Sorry I wasn't clear. According to the usual a...Sorry I wasn't clear. According to the usual analysis, 위 <i>wi</i> is phonemically /wi/ (unless it is /y/, which is increasingly disappearing). But as in Jamaican, the underlying /w/ has the allophone [ɥ] in this environment, so the actual phonetic realization is [ɥi].Jongseonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12558136756392729306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-7244496054776804582012-08-22T08:50:01.309+01:002012-08-22T08:50:01.309+01:00So... In the end I didn't understand: is it [w...So... In the end I didn't understand: is it <b>[wi]</b>, <b>[ɥi]</b> or with a non-syllabic <b>[y]</b>? The latter, I presume?Duchesse de Guermanteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12198316853449400624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-14708224128187812622012-08-22T08:47:04.880+01:002012-08-22T08:47:04.880+01:00Do tɕ, dʑ appear in English too occasionally? For ...Do <b>tɕ</b>, <b>dʑ</b> appear in English too occasionally? For example <b>[tɕ]</b><i>uesday, </i><b>[dʑ]</b><i>uice, si</i><b>[tɕ]</b><i>uation</i>?Duchesse de Guermanteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12198316853449400624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-56368672822281175682012-08-21T19:35:48.232+01:002012-08-21T19:35:48.232+01:00I didn't say you did.I didn't say you did.Jason Reidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399373762677357587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-35249037537356229582012-08-21T08:10:02.126+01:002012-08-21T08:10:02.126+01:00I didn't mean this /ɥəː/ sound is universal in...I didn't mean this /ɥəː/ sound is universal in SAE, but it's definitely common.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11343068774549667364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-36946768755640172362012-08-20T22:01:17.254+01:002012-08-20T22:01:17.254+01:00Korean is another example. The sequence 위 wi /wi/ ...Korean is another example. The sequence 위 <i>wi</i> /wi/ is phonetically [ɥi] and in the spoken language [ɥ] may also precede /ʌ/ (e.g. the single-syllable contraction of 쉬어 <i>swi-eo</i> [ʃy.ʌ] → [ʃɥʌ]). However, most Koreans except some older speakers in certain regions don't have [y] even though this is the preferred pronunciation of 위 in the prescribed standard and the pronunciation as /wi/ ([ɥi]) is merely allowed.Jongseonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12558136756392729306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-89772842786157122652012-08-20T16:59:13.056+01:002012-08-20T16:59:13.056+01:00There was a post here on SAE CURE a few years ago....There was <a href="http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/02/going-on-twur.html" rel="nofollow">a post</a> here on SAE CURE a few years ago. However, no one else observed <strong>ɥ</strong> before <strong>ɞː</strong> (to use John's transcription of SAE NURSE). Jason Reidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399373762677357587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-20205996444542101692012-08-20T16:34:29.331+01:002012-08-20T16:34:29.331+01:00I've always felt the cure vowel of South Afric...I've always felt the cure vowel of South African English is pronounced /ɥəː/ instead of the usually reported /jʊə/.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11343068774549667364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-66890637579650690072012-08-20T11:24:54.271+01:002012-08-20T11:24:54.271+01:00Possibly. But Twi is a clear case of such a langua...Possibly. But Twi is a clear case of such a language.John Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-36221764185069158842012-08-20T10:38:39.666+01:002012-08-20T10:38:39.666+01:00Is it unusual for a language to have [ɥ] but not i...Is it unusual for a language to have [ɥ] but not its syllabic equivalent [y ~ ʏ]?shinevividlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01598031842736939189noreply@blogger.com