tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post2634614160296820102..comments2024-03-17T09:14:13.950+00:00Comments on John Wells’s phonetic blog: creating a vowel diagramJohn Wellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-60665487540927139332015-08-11T09:41:11.164+01:002015-08-11T09:41:11.164+01:00I use creately online diagramming software to crea...I use <a href="http://creately.com" rel="nofollow">creately</a> online diagramming software to create these types of diagrams. However I've never created a vowel diagram. This is interesting.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01134034541170679170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-840665097283087032013-07-26T02:32:31.147+01:002013-07-26T02:32:31.147+01:00Someone should design some sort of online tool so ...Someone should design some sort of online tool so that you could just type in the vowel and position it on the diagram. That would be so easy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09789999573185143596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-44303009848134083292010-04-30T10:08:32.410+01:002010-04-30T10:08:32.410+01:00The circle vowel are used to produced for an accep...The circle vowel are used to produced for an acceptable pronunciation, more respected by the native speakers, even if not necessary for comprehension.bed linenhttp://www.beddinghut.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-57424237636417053192010-04-28T12:53:11.563+01:002010-04-28T12:53:11.563+01:00I had this very problem a while ago, so I wrote a ...I had this very problem a while ago, so I wrote a piece of software to solve it. You write a script like this, and it puts out a bitmap:<br /><br />Size=3<br />1 1 U 'i'<br />1 3 R 'u'<br />2 1 U 'e'<br />2 1 R 'o'<br />3.5 2 U '6'<br /><br />This one prints the four Cardinals a e o u and upside-down 'a' in their proper positions. The numbers on each line say where you want the vowel positioned. The first number is the vertical position (1=close, 4-open) and the second is the horizontal position (1=front, 3=back). Fractions are allowed, so 3.5 vertical is halfway between open-mid and open. U/R is un/rounded, and positions the symbol to the left or right of its blob accordingly. The symbols in this case are Sampa, but there's an option to express them numerically and so use any font (as you do in html, for example). 'Size' is an arbitrary number for how big you want the bitmap to be.<br /><br />The software is currently embedded in a formatter I use to produce the materials on my 'rational language learning' website, but I'll disentangle it and post the link here in a few days.Derek Rogershttp://www.derek.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-83477169795179668112010-04-28T11:05:52.423+01:002010-04-28T11:05:52.423+01:00wjarek
Yes, I see the advantage of separate dots....wjarek<br /><br />Yes, I see the advantage of separate dots.<br /><br />The <b>Insert Shape</b> command has disappeared -- at least in <i>Word 2008</i> and presumably <i>Word 2007</i>. You now have to reach the <b>Object Palette</b>. I can do this via the drop-down <b>View</b> menu; I presume that <i>Vista</i> users do it though a <b>View</b> ribbon.<br /><br />As you know, but others may not, the trick is to select <b>Oval</b>, draw one with the same height and width -- i.e. a circle -- and substitute a black <b>Fill</b>.<br /><br />There is an alternative: to stick with <b>Text Box</b> and use the <b>Insert Symbol</b> command with a Dingbats font or similar.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-87047757936884780562010-04-27T20:34:31.520+01:002010-04-27T20:34:31.520+01:00Two more things:
(1) If you want to import more c...Two more things:<br /><br />(1) If you want to import more complex shapes into Word or Writer, try to avoid emf or wmf. Neither of the two formats handles curves well. So the vowel chart, consisting of lines only, will be fine. Anything curvy won't look too great at large zoom settings. Better than most raster images, but not smooth.<br /><br />(2) For dots, I would prefer dots drawn separately using the Insert Shape command. (I forget what it was called in Word 2003.) This allows you to control them separately -- you can have the symbols not only to the right of the dots, but above, below, etc. To make sure they are the same size, draw one and then copy and paste that one. To resize, select all the dots and resize together.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13034958113049420062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-32962485278630447982010-04-27T20:28:47.878+01:002010-04-27T20:28:47.878+01:00The general procedure suggested by David Crosbie i...The general procedure suggested by David Crosbie is what I would use in Word or OpenOffice Writer, with the exception of starting with a vector background image for much, much smoother results.<br /><br />But I don't know if a free vector image is available on the web that would be compatible with Word or Writer -- you would need e.g. emf or wmf on Windows. You can convert the svg above to emf or wmf using Inkscape. I'm pretty sure there must be online services that allow you to convert svg to other formats.<br /><br />With newer versions of Word, you can also use eps vector images. (Well, you can use eps images even in Word 2000 but I don't think they will display so that you can edit them within Word. But they will print OK to a postscript printer or pdf.)<br /><br />In addition to converting from svg to other formats, Inkscape is of course the way to go for more complex stuff. But for "normal" users it will be overkill if the only thing they want is a vowel chart.<br /><br />In particular, Inkscape has four big advantages: (1) It's free an quite powerful; (2) It's available for all major platforms; (3) It handles Unicode without too many problems; and last but definitely not least (4) It can import and then edit pages from pdfs. This last feature has saved my editing life many, many times. So if you can find a nice vector-based image of something in pdf, you can move on from there with great results.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13034958113049420062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-91493078087389271342010-04-27T19:53:21.722+01:002010-04-27T19:53:21.722+01:00LaTeX all the way. once you make the template, it...LaTeX all the way. once you make the template, it's so easy to go back and modify it. plus it's much more attractive.<br /><br />in the preamble, \usepackage{vowel}. then inside the document,<br /><br />\begin{vowel}<br /> \putcvowel{i}{1}<br /> \putcvowel{e}{2}<br /> \putcvowel{a}{15}<br /> \putcvowel{u}{8}<br /> \putcvowel{o}{7}<br />\end{vowel}<br /><br />where the first argument of \putcvowel is the vowel and the second is the cardinal-vowel number.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-60319233694796088862010-04-27T16:52:41.645+01:002010-04-27T16:52:41.645+01:00To anyone who might like the look of the half-doze...To anyone who might like the look of the half-dozen diagrams at Section 3.1 ¶46 at www.yek.me.uk I may say that they were executed by my collaborator who may be contacted via webmaster@www.yek.me.uk.Jack Windsor Lewisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-44041463678385295672010-04-27T16:37:13.069+01:002010-04-27T16:37:13.069+01:00Chime to the suggestion about Inscape. Just be sur...Chime to the suggestion about Inscape. Just be sure to download ths file as a SVG and not as a PNG. If you download one that already has many of the symbols you want, you can simply move them around. Some of the other images relevant to the anatomy of the vocal tract are also SVGs, Inkscape is pretty useful if you want to customize/edit them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-79303084169876687242010-04-27T14:12:02.787+01:002010-04-27T14:12:02.787+01:00I have used David Crosbie's method for years, ...I have used David Crosbie's method for years, but without the Grouping option, which I now look forward to trying. Thanks for the tip, David!Amy Stollerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14067839246823753590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-63290208888454056372010-04-27T14:11:13.090+01:002010-04-27T14:11:13.090+01:00Postscript
I neglected the dots.
To get a suitab...Postscript<br /><br />I neglected the dots.<br /><br />To get a suitable dot, format each box as a bulleted list. Then <b>Format Bullets and Numbering</b>. The text box will need to be wider.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-4974764158992931192010-04-27T13:59:36.080+01:002010-04-27T13:59:36.080+01:00This works with MS Word 2008 on my Mac.
1. Downlo...This works with MS <i>Word 2008</i> on my Mac.<br /><br />1. Download the file above and <b>Copy Image</b><br /><br />2. In <i>Word</i>, pull down <b>Paste Special</b> from the <b>Edit</b> menu -- or access it from the ribbon.<br /><br />3. Select <b>picture</b><br /><br />4. Format the picture <b>Layout</b> <br />(I just double-clicked it, but your sustem may be different)<br /><br />5. Select <b>Appearance</b><br /><br />6.From the <b>Wrapping style</b> choices, select <b>Behind text</b><br /><br />7. <b>Insert</b> a <b>Text Box</b><br /><br />8. Simultaneously adjust the box size and font size (clicking in different places) until you can type and see a single character of a suitable size.<br /><br />9. If necessary, format the text box:<br />a. <b>Color and Lines</b> should be set for for <b>No Fill</b> and <b>No Line</b><br />b. <b>Layout</b> is OK if <b>Wrapping style</b> is set as <b>Tight</b> (I haven't tried any other)<br /><br />10. Drag your text box to the desired position on the diagram. <br />(If necessary, you can still adjust the font size. <br />And if the character is too big for the box, you can still increase the box size.) <br /><br />11. Repeat steps 7-10 for each character.<br /><br />The boxes remain moveable, but you can freeze them in position at any point as follows:<br /><br />1. Simultaneously <b>Select</b> the diagram picture and the character(s) you wish to freeze.<br /><br />2. Find the <b>Grouping</b> option. <br />(In <i>Word 2008</i>, this is done with the <b>Formatting palette</b> accessed from the <b>View</b> menu<br />There's then a choice <b>Size, Rotation and Ordering</b>)<br /><br />3. Under <b>Grouping</b> select the option <b>Group</b><br /><br />You can at any time repeat this to freeze another character to the diagram. You can also at any time reverse the last addition thus:<br /><br />1. Select the grouped diagram.<br /><br />2. Find <b>Grouping</b> as above.<br /><br />3. Select <b>Ungroup</b><br /><br />You can do this as many times as you like.<br /><br />This will give you a diagram where the letters overlay the lines of the diagram. To avoid this, you will need to use a white <b>Fill</b> in each text box. And you may well have to adjust the size of the boxes.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-32726690787254415872010-04-27T13:02:05.024+01:002010-04-27T13:02:05.024+01:00You can load the SVG that Johannes found into Inks...You can load the SVG that Johannes found into <a href="http://www.inkscape.org/" rel="nofollow">Inkscape</a>, and add Unicode characters there. Inkscape saves as SVG, which works in most browsers, but I've found that Firefox doesn't get the 'Scaleable' bit right, and renders it as a fixed size. For quick and easy web publishing, you can export as PNG from Inkscape.<br /><br />OpenOffice still doesn't support SVG natively, but there is a <a href="http://haumacher.de/svg-import/" rel="nofollow">converter</a> that works reasonably well.scrusshttp://scruss.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-50934140865539102722010-04-27T12:13:42.704+01:002010-04-27T12:13:42.704+01:00That vowel chart looks like it was made in LaTeX, ...That vowel chart looks like it was made in LaTeX, using the TIPA package. Wikipedia uses MediaWiki which, according to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Displaying_a_formula" rel="nofollow">this help page</a>, allows the use of LaTeX in creating pages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-2027438300729999442010-04-27T11:40:48.773+01:002010-04-27T11:40:48.773+01:00When I was writing "How to Teach Pronunciatio...When I was writing "How to Teach Pronunciation" (11 yrs ago!) I did this in MS Word and Powerpoint by trial and error, having scanned a blank (tippexed/snopaked) chart, pasting it in to a powerpoint as a jpeg, adding dots, moving the postion, grouping the image, saving the image, and then pasting it into my Word doc! It took hours for the first few, then I got it down to a fine art. I'm sure there are easier ways...Gerald Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02319457420621332461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-19740919584013465352010-04-27T10:30:01.076+01:002010-04-27T10:30:01.076+01:00Pictures such as these are best drawn in a vector ...Pictures such as these are best drawn in a vector format (as opposed to a raster/bitmap format). The most common is SVG, which can be edited by the free program Inkscape.<br /><br />Here's the blank vowel diagram in a vector version:<br />http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blank_vowel_trapezoid.svg<br /><br />Note that SVG files are less supported in browsers than for example PNG (a bitmap format), so if you want to publish the picture, you might want to convert it to a bitmap.Johannesnoreply@blogger.com