tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post5484760435423646067..comments2024-03-17T09:14:13.950+00:00Comments on John Wells’s phonetic blog: ICPhSJohn Wellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-58018307975935511052011-09-05T01:51:30.091+01:002011-09-05T01:51:30.091+01:00@Debbie Loakes:
My apologies: I did not mean in a...@Debbie Loakes:<br /><br />My apologies: I did not mean in any way to impugn the originality of your research. My comment was not about your paper, but the way it was introduced in the main posting.<br /><br />@Thomas:<br />I fully agree. I flirted briefly with an academic career many years ago (in a completely unrelated field), and I remember the terror I experienced giving papers in front of the world experts in my field. I would imagine that the young researcher felt absolutely devastated once audience comments revealed that her research was merely following a well-worn path. The academic world can be a pretty tough and unforgiving place. I'm just a bit sad that this seemed to overshadow the many interesting and positive things that Professor Wells was kind enough to report in his main posting.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-28379178771135263352011-09-05T00:39:48.196+01:002011-09-05T00:39:48.196+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-52942333342727012362011-09-04T20:16:52.843+01:002011-09-04T20:16:52.843+01:00I can't help thinking that it's a cruel ( ...I can't help thinking that it's a cruel ( and, from my very limited experience reading this blog, uncharacteristic ) way to point out the shortcomings of a "keen young researcher".<br /> <br />I'm not a linguist, but this blog is one I enjoy every few days. I'm sure offence was not intended- and of course her name was not mentioned- but there must be another way to criticise that doesn't invite bullying. <br /><br />Still, glad the blog is back and I look forward to more.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09698347977063834446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-86480605311269599772011-09-02T01:16:07.334+01:002011-09-02T01:16:07.334+01:00With respect to /el/->[æl] in Australian Englis...With respect to /el/->[æl] in Australian English: John I'm glad you find it of interest. We hope to document and explain the process in far more detail, especially with respect to regional and sociophonetic variatation.<br /><br />VP - that's an interesting comment about our ICPhS paper re-inventing the wheel. Our paper is actually about /el/->[æl] and its possible connection to other sound changes in Australian English. It's also based on perception data, whereas previous work is based on production. I'd argue we are contributing to the bigger picture, we are certainly not claiming innovation with respect to identifying the phenomenon. Oh, and we make clear reference to the 2003 paper by Cox and Palethorpe in our work (incidentally, the publication date is 2004 - Wikipedia has that wrong). It's a shame you weren't at the presentation to hear more, but I hope you can access a copy of the written version (if not, send me an email at dloakes@unimelb.edu.au).<br /><br />Debbie LoakesDebbie Loakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11011691872381623608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-40434207271071598342011-09-01T19:18:18.545+01:002011-09-01T19:18:18.545+01:00Good to have you back, John. Of ‘ayn ʕ I have long...Good to have you back, John. Of ‘ayn ʕ I have long thought and taught that it can at any rate sound pretty much like an epiglottal trill in some varieties, and students of mine have proposed such realizations in their theses and/or publications. My knowledge of anatomy is certainly less sufficient than yours to enable me to judge whether these claims about it are any sort of vindication of that. I tentatively mentioned this idea in December 2009 on this blog, and Lipman said he was sure he'd heard that kind of ‘ayin. <br /><br />I suppose the point about the Wu Chinese of Qingtian was meant to be that the triggering consonants for this tonal depression feature became voiceless much more recently than in most other varieties in which this happened to the Middle Chinese voiced initials.mallambhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086916400059545681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-17802852348074204252011-09-01T10:25:41.890+01:002011-09-01T10:25:41.890+01:00The east African language Luganda also contrasts s...The east African language <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luganda" rel="nofollow">Luganda</a> also contrasts simple and geminate consonants in initial position. For example <i>gwa</i> 'fall', <i>ggwa</i> 'end' (both pronounced as spelt).<br /><br />PS: Welcome back, John - your blogs have been missed this past month!Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13722482936100504510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-67610386557162785612011-09-01T10:00:37.559+01:002011-09-01T10:00:37.559+01:00In Arabic dialects (or languages), there's a w...In Arabic dialects (or languages), there's a whole pattern of minimal pairs of words starting with a single vs a geminated consonant, namely where the proclitic article l- is assimilated to the "solar" group of initial consonants, for instance <b>ʃæms</b> (sun) vs <b>ʃːæms</b> (the sun).Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-81095212535915397912011-09-01T09:29:26.359+01:002011-09-01T09:29:26.359+01:00On the topic of rediscovering wheels, the Wikipedi...On the topic of rediscovering wheels, the Wikipedia article on the "celery-salary merger" cites a paper dating from 2003.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.com