tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post7536528211278078173..comments2024-03-17T09:14:13.950+00:00Comments on John Wells’s phonetic blog: pumaJohn Wellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13684304410735867148noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-25967241253569942302020-03-18T13:44:47.458+00:002020-03-18T13:44:47.458+00:00Thanks for sharing:
Evan Luthra a young billionair...Thanks for sharing:<br /><a href="https://onn.network/4721/evan-luthra-running-the-business-from-the-age-of-12-and-now-a-self-made-millionaire/" rel="nofollow">Evan Luthra</a> a young billionaire who was ahead of his time and is now investing in brilliant minds like him.<a href="https://www.crunchbase.com/person/evan-luthra" rel="nofollow">Evan Luthra</a> is one of the youngest tycoons in the IT industry today and has invested in numerous tech projects to this date. <a href="https://angel.co/evanluthra" rel="nofollow">Evan Luthra</a> started giving TedX speeches at the age of 18 and since then, he has also spoken at some of the most prestigious events including Crpto Investor Show, Blockshow, etc. He has been featured in 30 under 30 entrepreneurs list and is known to support and guide budding entrepreneurs through his incubator Startup Studio.<br /><br />Having accumulated years of experience in the tech industry, <a href="https://medium.com/this-happened-to-me/what-it-takes-to-be-a-serial-entrepreneur-5b15883ab5a6" rel="nofollow">Evan Luthra</a> is today spearheading innovation in projects that are laying the foundation of our better future. 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With over 500,000 followers he is always sharing bits of his life and words of wisdom to let the world know that <a href="https://www.accesswire.com/578786/Evan-Luthra-Bitwings-Conquer-the-South-American-Blockchain-Scene" rel="nofollow">Evan Luthra</a> is there to listen to your extraordinary ideas.<br />Evan Luthrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03077433084170862300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-11558794071309822232018-06-02T05:01:31.677+01:002018-06-02T05:01:31.677+01:00Both are correctBoth are correctAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03623158131646899633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-76938521764235881992017-07-17T06:08:33.591+01:002017-07-17T06:08:33.591+01:00Such a nice information about my search i am worki...Such a nice information about my search i am working these type of work Great post, thanks a lot for sharing<br /><br /><a href="https://www.onlinecouponisland.com/puma-discount-voucher-code" rel="nofollow">Puma Discount Voucher Codes</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07975138443563244296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-82730831971627399032014-05-12T10:47:04.170+01:002014-05-12T10:47:04.170+01:00I'm the reverse of Justin: raised in North Ca...I'm the reverse of Justin: raised in North Carolina and living in the Midwest. Until last week, I'd never heard anything but pjuːmə; in fact, I thought a friend was just pulling my leg correcting me. I've since found people from Illinois are very resistant to this pronunciation, even though it seems standard elsewhere. I'm fine with both, but I don't get the insistence on puːmə just because the German shoe company is called that. Personally, I'll stick with the Smothers Brothers.<br /><br />I realize this is two years old.Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05975987736875644328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-55044872230265790172012-03-22T12:59:14.146+00:002012-03-22T12:59:14.146+00:00I became aware of the /kjuːpɑn/ pronunciation only...I became aware of the /kjuːpɑn/ pronunciation only a few months ago, when I heard it from a TV character with a New York accent. I was startled -- it sounded like a mistake. I asked my Ann Arbor friends; some say it that way and some don't. I'm from northern California; I notice the other speaker on this thread who doesn't think /kjuːpɑn/ is established as the AmE standard is from Seattle.Karen van Hoekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09004215390305691685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-55183813672686497822012-03-07T08:36:40.158+00:002012-03-07T08:36:40.158+00:00If you've never heard an American say ˈpjuːmə ...If you've never heard an American say ˈpjuːmə then you didn't see the Smothers Brothers' "Boil That Cabbage Down" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIfl2o44zb0 about 45 years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-66020273872834492442012-02-29T16:03:26.417+00:002012-02-29T16:03:26.417+00:00Unavoidably, general dictionaries are rather more ...Unavoidably, general dictionaries are rather more prescriptive about pronunciations than about definitions and usage: until very recent years, they have not had decent-sized speech corpora to work from.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-20480952222762351482012-02-29T16:00:45.921+00:002012-02-29T16:00:45.921+00:00All initial /h/ was lost in the most recent ancest...All initial /h/ was lost in the most recent ancestral variety, anyway, and restored erratically and imperfectly from the spelling. BrE and AmE did the restoration differently.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-79619278211013552842012-02-29T15:57:48.088+00:002012-02-29T15:57:48.088+00:00Ah, length. As a Murkin, I'm deaf to length.Ah, length. As a Murkin, I'm deaf to length.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-10768914167080760562012-02-28T20:16:50.292+00:002012-02-28T20:16:50.292+00:00It would be consistent with the meaning of the son...It would be consistent with the meaning of the song if it contained an imitated upper-class pronunciation rather than necessarily a typical RP pronunciation. I class myself as an RP speaker, and have schwa in the last syllable; "Jaguar" rhyming with "Bar" sounds upper-class to me. It also appears to me that the song is deliberately drawing attention to it by scanning in such a way as to give emphasis to this usually unstressed syllable.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10627322349797202893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-79529454506917336482012-02-28T19:31:56.003+00:002012-02-28T19:31:56.003+00:00Perhaps the yodful "coupon"'s curren...<i>Perhaps the yodful "coupon"'s currency is related to a lower awareness of French, and French reading-rules, in the US, ...</i><br /><br />Sounds plausible, but by the same argument you'd expect the BrE and AmE pronunciations of "herb" to be the other way around.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10627322349797202893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-33795029842469008782012-02-28T15:24:13.993+00:002012-02-28T15:24:13.993+00:00I wholeheartedly agree; it's nice to see someo...I wholeheartedly agree; it's nice to see someone who's been around the country who also finds ˈpjuːmə to be utterly bizarre. Any American dictionary listing ˈpjuːmə as the only pronunciation should try asking an American how they pronounce "puma" and adjust their transcription accordingly.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09638933441690726956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-40141017364012023652012-02-28T13:39:57.644+00:002012-02-28T13:39:57.644+00:00Well,stress is a side issue here, although I must ...Well,stress is a side issue here, although I must admit that you're probably right; what I meant was the unusual -gu- pronunciation like 'gʊ' rather than 'gw'.Podpora społeczeństwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339088245843399386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-54167503970474684432012-02-28T11:51:06.259+00:002012-02-28T11:51:06.259+00:00The majority pronunciation is 'pɪŋgʊi:nə, I th...The majority pronunciation is <b>'pɪŋgʊi:nə</b>, I think. Stressing it on the penultimate is something I shouldn't consider wrong, but I don't remember hearing it. If so, the register wouldn't fit the <b>w</b>, and it would have a full syllable there.<br /><br />I've certainly heard <b>bilingual</b> with four syllables though three might be more common. The word almost always has initial stress, and otherwise the stress is on -al- (only in an attributive position).Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-52413098673319297762012-02-28T11:16:51.704+00:002012-02-28T11:16:51.704+00:00Re stress, you're right, the penultimate, sorr...Re stress, you're right, the penultimate, sorry.<br /><br />On the rest---might well be that you are right, esp. concerning the 'g', but I wouldn't argue. Re polar bird I sort of regard pɪŋ'gwi:nə (3 syllables) as normal but I may be wrong in this expectation.<br /><br />Never heard 'biling'Ual'. four syllables, though. Next time I hear someone say 'ling'Uistisch' (four syllables) I'll try to elicit a statement on bilinguality from her/him/it/them.<br /><br />nb. 'bilingual' in Chilean Spanish seems to mean that one has, apart from native Spanish, some smattering of another language, not necessarily real bilinguality.Podpora społeczeństwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339088245843399386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-63005482266863533692012-02-28T11:00:57.526+00:002012-02-28T11:00:57.526+00:00And there are accepted versions with v (with or wi...And there are accepted versions with <b>v</b> (with or without the <b>g</b>.Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-33666755137165792492012-02-28T10:56:39.589+00:002012-02-28T10:56:39.589+00:00Sorry, almost always 'pɪŋgui:n(ə).Sorry, almost always <b>'pɪŋgui:n(ə)</b>.Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-29293812941514621952012-02-28T10:54:52.514+00:002012-02-28T10:54:52.514+00:00lɪŋ'gwɪstɪʃ or lɪŋgu'ɪstɪʃ, surely. The fi...<b>lɪŋ'gwɪstɪʃ</b> or <b>lɪŋgu'ɪstɪʃ</b>, surely. The first might have a variant without the g, the second, which is at least as widespread, hardly. And for the versions with <b>uɪ</b> there are versions with and without the glottal stop, and with a short <b>u</b> or a <b>ʊ</b>. The stress is on the penultimate, never on the <b>u/ʊ</b>.<br /><br />Like wise <b>pɪŋgu'i:n(ə)</b>.Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-85847544988419407132012-02-28T10:44:56.731+00:002012-02-28T10:44:56.731+00:00As an aside parallelism: in German, 'linguisti...As an aside parallelism: in German, 'linguistisch' (linguistic) is normally pronounced 'lɪŋ'wɪstɪʃ', but some Germans (known to me) say 'lɪŋ'uɪstɪʃ' (four syllables), likewise 'pɪŋ'ui:nə' (penguin).Podpora społeczeństwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339088245843399386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-44419045460785754112012-02-28T10:11:18.829+00:002012-02-28T10:11:18.829+00:00This is because you-guys (English, Dutch etc.) are...This is because you-guys (English, Dutch etc.) are colonial nations and have experience with 'exotic' animals. We, by contrast, confined to Middle-European fauna, have neither the need nor the nerve for such differentiations as 'black', 'pink' and what not. But strangely, instead of regarding 'lampart', 'pantera' and 'leopard' as synonyms, we usually think they refer to three different species. If Apple had been a Polish business, they could have scot-free multiplied their feline Oh-Esses.Podpora społeczeństwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339088245843399386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-35238001578054573902012-02-28T09:55:36.407+00:002012-02-28T09:55:36.407+00:00Yes, that's well possible, and I should have s...Yes, that's well possible, and I should have said Central rather than South American. (Chile has <i>atún</i>, too.)Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-74502252974778745632012-02-28T08:31:25.412+00:002012-02-28T08:31:25.412+00:00As I understand, "panther" in English is...As I understand, "panther" in English is used mainly for the black varieties of both leopard and jaguar (or to the puma). In Dutch, "luipaard" is used mainly for the African variety, while "panter" is used for the Asian ones.Kilian Hekhuishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01084720179158650652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-26270150991772041242012-02-28T08:05:56.784+00:002012-02-28T08:05:56.784+00:00Sorry. Thank you. I have overlooked something.
I&...Sorry. Thank you. I have overlooked something.<br /><br />I'd suspect that Apple either don't know that Puma=Mountain Lion, or if they do they think few (amongst their prospective customers) know and/or care.<br /><br />In Poland there are ('are' in the sense of 'are known about') three big felines, lampart, pantera and leopard, zoologically all panthera pardus, but I have often observed that many thought these be three different species. If 'panther' and 'leopard' in English be or not be the same I don't know. Maybe in the Apple world they aren't.<br /><br />Anyway, the unpronounceability of 'puma' does not helpPodpora społeczeństwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339088245843399386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-54493315021555108972012-02-28T04:48:42.307+00:002012-02-28T04:48:42.307+00:00Is a baɪˈlɪŋɡ(j)u.əl someone who speaks two ˈlæŋg(...Is a <b>baɪˈlɪŋɡ(j)u.əl</b> someone who speaks two <b>ˈlæŋg(j)u.ɪdʒɪz</b> ?vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-377103124456226005.post-13148323580918839812012-02-28T03:05:23.035+00:002012-02-28T03:05:23.035+00:00If you're still accepting anecdotes, I too am ...If you're still accepting anecdotes, I too am an American (born/raised in NYC and the NE US, resident in Chicago for 20+ years; I have plain old <b>uː</b> in <i>tuna</i>, <i>newt</i>, etc.) who cannot recall ever hearing any other American say <b>ˈpjuːmə</b> or anything but <b>ˈpuːmə</b> for <i>puma</i>. My partner (who's lived primarily in eastern Michigan, NYC, and Chicago) reports the same, and I'm extremely confident that in neither of our cases has selective attention played a major role. <br /><br />The non-IPA-using OAD (widget version, at least) has <b>ˈp(y)oōmə</b>.banacekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11666346142157580937noreply@blogger.com